He didn't blame Kakashi for killing Rin, but rather for "letting her die" and not being able to keep his promise. I was always going to being you. Take a second to look at our. Obito and Tobi are very similar in a lot of ways, and there are a lot of things throughout the series that intentionally join them. im sticking to this because madara was the founder of the leaf. I just don't want Madara setting up this because that'd be the laziest thing Kishi has ever done. madara tells naruto the true story of itachi. Obito knew the truth. Tobi being madara, tobi being obito or is both. 28. From what I could find from googling however, Tobi has always Obito never Madara, so why does he do this? Kakashi has MS. Itachi stated prior to seeing kakashi's MS and after seeing kakashi's MS that there are three MS users. As Madara arrived on the battlefield, Naruto, Kakashi, Guy and B were all shocked to see the legendary shinobi before them, leading them to wonder what had happened to the Kage.As Madara and Obito casually carried on their conversation, Madara noted that the Naruto in front of … In defeating Madara and Obito, Naruto and Sasuke saved the Shinobi world from the infinite Tsukuyomi, which could have enslaved the world as a whole in a dream-like illusion. Madara Uchiha continues to tell Sasuke about the truth behind Itachi's actions. Posted by. Madara & Obito Seven Deadly Sins. In truth, they mostly serve as a convenient plot device that cures people (such as Madara and Obito), grant powers (Yamato's wood release or Danzo's creepy arm) and performs other such miracles as needed. Obito Uchiha (Japanese: うちは オビト, Hepburn: Uchiha Obito), also known by his alias Tobi (トビ), is a character in Masashi Kishimoto's manga Naruto.He is first introduced in a "Kakashi Chronicle" sidestory as a child soldier who sacrifices himself to save his friends (Kakashi Hatake and Rin Nohara, led by Minato Namikaze) from a rival group of ninjas. In order to aid in his coup, Fugaku had Itachi placed within the Anbu so he would serve as a spy for them. Madara reveals to Sasuke that Itachi's goal, other than implanting the Amaterasu within Sasuke, was to seal away Orochimaru as well as Sasuke's Cursed Seal of Heaven, a feat that was only capable if he had reduced Sasuke's chakra levels to their bare minimum. Sasuke refuses to accept Madara's story, claiming that Itachi had murdered their clan to test the limits of his abilities, that he was nothing more than a criminal who joined the Akatsuki, and that Itachi had no reason to protect him, citing that Itachi would not have used his Mangekyō Sharingan against him if he was not trying to kill him. Ok, first of all, did Itachi know that Tobi wasn't actually Madara but Obito? Sorry, you should explain this theory of yours much deeper. Fated Battle Between Brothers He was pulled into a genjutsu. earthsoul Member. Feeling alone in the world, Obito dreamed of becoming Hokage so that the people of the village would acknowledge his existence. Arc This thread is archived. Get over with the obito crap thread. I’m confused He also tells the story of the Uchihas from Madara’s POV. -Madara Uchiha. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In Itachi's version Madara straight up murders Izuna. Posted by. this eases up naruto's pain and bewilderment about sasuke's actions. hide. If Obito tries to ghost Madara and BFR him its more likely he eats a Susanoo blade when he solidifies to try the warp than succeeding in BFRing Madara. Tobirama is a sensory type and couldnt tell that Madara burried a Shadow Clone 74. December 24, 2009 0. Tears streaming down his face, he recalls the memories of his brother he had before the clan's massacre and how much he had loved and respected Itachi. During his time of Obito being with Madara, the White Zetsus told him that Rin and "Stupid Kakashi" were in trouble. 3. Obito Uchiha, auch bekannt unter seinen Pseudonymen Tobi (トビ) und Madara Uchiha, ist der eigentliche Anführer von Akatsuki und der ehemalige Jinchuuriki des Juubi. Madara Uchiha continues to tell Sasuke about the truth behind Itachi's actions. He then declares that he is renaming their team from Hebi to Taka, and that their new mission is to destroy Konohagakure, awakening his own Mangekyō Sharingan in the process. Also, did he know that it was Obito who released the kyuubi? Madara and Obito launches the Tailed-Beast Balls in all directions, including the Allied HQ. Notice how Tobi called Kabuto a "wise guy" when Kabuto called him Madara. STUPID THREAD! If Itachi had not spared his younger brother and had not massacred the Uchiha clan, his brother never would have gained his powers or been able to aid Naruto in defeating Madara and Obito. Summary. It could be, but I still think Tazuna has the MS. But if he knew it was Obito,or Tobi, a member of the Akatsuki, why didn't he tell it to Sasuke, or Konoha? Madara died after the ten tails was removed from him but obito … Although you could also talk about the ingredient too. He arrives just in time to realize that Kakashi has run his Chidori through Rin's chest although Rin manages to say Kakashi's name before hitting the ground, dead. If Obito tries to ghost Madara and BFR him its more likely he eats a Susanoo blade when he solidifies to try the warp than succeeding in BFRing Madara. You must log in or register to reply here. However, while Itachi had managed to murder his father, his mother, and his lover, he was unable to kill his little brother, and thus had spared Sasuke's life. Madara also divulges that following the Konoha Crush, Itachi's true motive for returning to the village was to make sure that Sasuke would be kept safe from the likes of Danzō following the Third's death, and that he was also spying on the Akatsuki from within for Konoha's sake. He also stated that Madara/Tobi was one of them. Madara Tells Obito The Truth About What Really Happened To Rin - Naruto Shippuden English Subbed #NARUTO #NARUTOSHIPPUDEN #MADARA "Obito and Madara" (オビトとマダラ, Obito to Madara) is chapter 601 of the original Naruto manga. Seems like it was a pretty important episode :/ I think it happened right after the fight with Danzo Afterwards, Madara outlines his plan to become the Ten-Tails' Jinchūriki to Obito. The only way that this could make sense is if Tobi/Madara = Obito. Now if Itachi did see the fake 'Madara's' face...lol he should atleast know they aren't the same even if he wouldn't know Uncle Obito from a … 11 comments. save. Archived. Air dates From what I could find from googling however, Tobi has always Obito never Madara, so why does he do this? Itachi seek obito/tobi out but because madara was the only one with known secrets of their clan that died outside of the uchiha clan that's why he thought it could only be him and really nobody would I have thought of obito. Archived. However, he was pretty disappointed that Kakashi wasn't able to protect Rin like he promised. Also, did he know that it was Obito who released the kyuubi? However, Itachi's loyalty was not towards his clan, but towards the village, and wanted to do what was best for Konohagakure. If not, Madara is probably a great great uncle or distant cousin to Obito. By: NPwall. What if Obito found out that Madara was the one who got Rin killed. If Itachi had not spared his younger brother and had not massacred the Uchiha clan, his brother never would have gained his powers or been able to aid Naruto in defeating Madara and Obito. After Sasuke beats Itachi, Tobi tells Sasuke “the truth” and refers to himself as Madara. a. Skipped it while I was binge watching last year cuz I thought it was filler. He enrolled in the Academy to help him achieve that goal, where he developed a one-sided rivalry with Kakashi Hatake, whose natural talent and popularity he was jealous of. On his way to the battle site, Obito has a vision of Rin through his empty eye-socket but ignores it. But if he knew it was Obito,or Tobi, a member of the Akatsuki, why didn't he tell it to Sasuke, or Konoha? Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals, https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Truth?oldid=1335678, This is the article on episode 141. What is the song that play when Madara(Obito)tells Sasuke the truth about Itachi? Basically the Seven Deadly Sins switch places with Team Naruto and the Ninja Alliance in the fight against Madara and Obito. No no no no, Itachi didnt know Kakashi had MS when he spoke to Sasuke. madara tells naruto the true story of itachi. "Obito and Madara" (オビトとマダラ, Obito to Madara) is chapter 601 of the original Naruto manga. As he left the genjutsu Obito's fists clenched crumpling the paper in his hand. 真実­ (Shinjitsu) Opening 76% Upvoted. "Uchiha Madara is nothing compared to his formal self". Yeah but when he said "kakashi-san you couldn't have"it seemed like he wasn't expecting it. So, I still fail to see where the pieces fit to complete this Madara=Obito theory... - Itachi doesn't know that Kakashi has the MS. After almost losing his life on a mission, Obito ends up meeting Madara who trains him to carry on his legacy to create the perfect Ninja world. 3 years ago. This is what i've been trying to say the whole time. Close. So uhh I know most ppl will b hatin on me for even bringin this old theory up again, but everyone just hear me out. r/Naruto: Everything related to the Naruto and Boruto series goes here. He also tells the story of the Uchihas from Madara’s POV. Obito did as the paper said and what happened surprised him. He couldn't blame Kakashi for Rin's death. Saying that even though Madara lost the fight for control his Eyes and Power remained alive and well. -Madara Uchiha at that time he was already well aged and only getting older this was during the reign of the first hokage. He arrives just in time to realize that Kakashi has run his Chidori through Rin's chest although Rin manages to say Kakashi's name before hitting the ground, dead. 30. Or was he just surprised that Kakashi had found out some of the Uchiha's secrets? 29. Gentz you're right.. its not enough to prove it.. but enough to give it more credibility. When he died, no, even in death, I was thinking of you. When the Third Hokage was unable to come to a peaceful negotiation with the Uchiha clan, the elders decided to eliminate them. Episode data FFS let the guy rest. Next There's not enough evidence to claim he knows. I guessed, pre-timeskip, that the ones able to use MS were Itachi, Kakashi ans Sasuke (potentially, not actually using it). Madara, Obito, Itachi, Sasuke and Kyuubi Thread starter quadude; Start date Aug 2, 2007; Q. quadude New Member. Plus there prov diff MS stages of lvl. There are literally half a dozen things Susanoo does to stop Obito from achieving that goal even ignoring its offensive abilities. And then what is the whole point of the summit ? It cant get any easier than that. Summary. he's calm and ok after that. Sasuke and Itachi's father, Fugaku, was the mastermind behind the coup d'état that would have had the Uchiha clan overthrow the Senju government. For episode 458, head to. So as we all should know. Ok, first of all, did Itachi know that Tobi wasn't actually Madara but Obito? report. Episode In Genjutsu: "Did it go as planed" asked, Madara Uchiha "Yes, he saw the girl get killed by her own teammate" replied Zetsu . The Truth is Uchiha *Madara is using Obito's body. it was just horrible to see him suffer like that, thinking whether sasuke's become a 'common criminal' working for the akatsuki. Kakashi has MS. Itachi stated prior to seeing kakashi's MS and after seeing kakashi's MS that there are three MS users. In Obito's version Izuna gave his eyes willingly (but was still implied to be murdered by Madara). That scroll I gave you connected you to the seal. The first part is correct, but it is unclear whether or not Obito is a direct descendant of Madara. Close. he understands why sasuke's more messed up than ever now and sympathizes with him. Rated: Fiction T - English - Adventure - Naruto U., Obito U., Konan, Nagato U. I’m confused . Japanese Sometimes falling back is the best way to achieve happiness and love. i wanna know if Madara is really telling the truth to sasuke, cuz he says that Itachi killed the whole clan Uchiha by orders of Konoha, also he says that the Sharingans users are the only one that can In Itachi's version Madara straight up murders Izuna. -Madara Uchiha. He also became a close friend of Rin Nohara, whom he eventually fell in love with. Obito Uchiha is one of Naruto's most notorious villains and arguably among the oldest.Having fought against the Leaf even before Uzumaki's birth, the tragedy he suffered after being crushed under a boulder transformed him into a force of nature - and a perfect weapon at Madara Uchiha's disposal.. RELATED: Naruto: 10 Things You Missed In The Fourth Great Ninja War New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Itachi clearly knew that Obito was the true leader of the Akatsuki, and he also knew of and feared Obito's (Sharingan) abilities, hence placing his own Mangekyo Sharingan on Sasuke and setting it so that Amaterasu activated when in the vicinity of Obito's Sharingan. .... how does that statement suggest that it cant be a possessed obito? report. Following the clan's massacre, Madara and Itachi had split their ways while Itachi, reporting the mission's success to the village, had left Konoha; however, he had asked the Third Hokage to keep Sasuke safe from harm and threatened to leak the village's intelligence to unallied nations otherwise. Synopsis. Manga Minata your logic is flawed.. in that you're trying to disprove assumptions that have basis with assumtions that have none. "Truth" (真実, Shinjitsu) is episode 141 of the Naruto: Shippūden anime. When Obito first comes into contact with Madara, he refers to him as his precious forefather. Madara tells Obito he will properly thank him in the future, and that Obito will return to him. Spoilers ahead — For Obito, Kakashi was a victim just as Rin was. Madara was not in the habit of sharing many things with Obito. And conveniantly its the opposite eye to kakashi. 67% Upvoted. Also, Obito knew that Kakashi would never hurt Rin. Obito is the leader of the Akatsuki and one of the main antagonists in Super Smash Bros. Crossover. Madara was not in the habit of sharing many things with Obito. He also hadn’t tried to hide it so Obito had not been able to figure out if it was important or not. Tobirama is a sensory type and couldnt tell that Madara burried a Shadow Clone 74. 10 Obito’s Mask. Skipped it while I was binge watching last year cuz I thought it was filler. Obito Uchiha, who is commonly referred to by his alias of Tobi and formerly identified as Madara Uchiha, is a childhood friend of Kakashi Hatake and was presumed to have died years ago, but somehow survived and became a criminal. Summary. -Madara Uchiha. He wanted naruto to know so that naruto would make the rash decision based on emotions and chase sasuke solo to try and save him. Itachi stated Madara is very much alive, so possessing a deceased Obito is out of the question. This war saw all the Five Great Nations join forces for the first time in history against a common threat. save. He had been keeping track until the list had gotten too long and he had to scrap it. The explosion destroys the headquarters, killing Shikaku and Inoichi. It cant get any easier than that. Thus, the Konoha Council and Danzō Shimura had exploited that trait and had Itachi spy on the Uchiha clan for them. He was there when it happened after all. If so, Madara would have to be Obito's great grandfather at the most. Of course, Madara wouldn’t tell him the truth. True its not certain that he knew.. but what he said was enough to assume he knew.. or at least thought kakashi had it.. Did Itachi actually realise? obito appears later on with minato who ends up being the the fourth hokage. If Madara is in obito's body, Itachi would know that eventually Kakashi will have the ms too , yet he was suprised. Why does he want "Sasuke" to capture the eight tails and why cant he do it himself ? Madara Uchiha continues to tell Sasuke about the truth behind Itachi's actions. After Sasuke beats Itachi, Tobi tells Sasuke “the truth” and refers to himself as Madara. Im Verlaufe des dritten Shinobi-Weltkrieges wird er schwer verletzt und vom echten Madara … Kakashi has MS. Itachi stated prior to seeing kakashi's MS and after seeing kakashi's MS that there are three MS users. He probably suspects the possibility, but he's never actually seen it. The only way that this could make sense is if Tobi/Madara = Obito. So by defeating and avenging the Uchiha Clan you would be acclaimed as a hero in Konoha. he's calm and ok after that. He didn't blame Kakashi for killing Rin, but rather for "letting her die" and not being able to keep his promise. Madara tells Obito he will properly thank him in the future, and that Obito will return to him. When Itachi was four, he had witnessed the deaths of many during the Third Shinobi World War, and thus developed a pacifist nature. from what i can tell atm i believe he is madara. So we all know that both Uchihas became the ten tails jinchuriki, but I was a bit confused as to how each of them used their new sage powers after having the ten tails absorbed into them. When Itachi was four, he had witnessed the deaths of many during the Third Shinobi World War, and thus developed a pacifist nature. this eases up naruto's pain and bewilderment about sasuke's actions. It's not a bad one, but it is still an assumption. Music "Truth"edit "Obito and Madara" (オビトとマダラ, Obito to Madara) is episode 344 of the Naruto: Shippūden anime. -Madara is not actually Marara, it was all a bluff to throw the shinobi world into a war - he is working for Madara however.-This Madara is actually (SUPER SPOILER)Obito(SUPER SPOILER) and was saved by Madara. i think its great that he got to hear it. Since when does "alive" necessarily imply "alive in his original body?". Previous So are you saying the ability/potencial to awake MS is. End Genjutsu . Obito went by the name Tobi after resurfacing prior to the Fourth Shinobi World War. Naruto: Shippūden #141 (Watch Online) he understands why sasuke's more messed up than ever now and sympathizes with him. Itachi stated Madara is very much alive, so possessing a deceased Obito is out of the question. Even if Madara was behind it, Obito found out the truth during his time in Mist. 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